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11:45 PM
02/01/2008
Don’t betray your heritage for Obama’s ‘change’
A couple years ago, President Bush thought it would be a good idea to turn over control of one or more vital seaports in the continental United States to an Arab-owned conglomerate. There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth

Gary Sillett is a Princeton resident and a pressman at The Ottawa Herald.

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29 comments
youngitized
05:09 PM
02/02/2008
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This editorial is a pack of lies...
Gary Sillett ought to be ashamed of himself. Barack Obama has never been a
Muslim and has been a Christian for 20+ years. He has attended the United
Church of Christ for that entire time and his family has attended this
church. Barack has also mentioned that he has a practicing and continuing
relationship with Jesus Christ. Would a Muslim say this? This article is
part of a Fox News and Insight Magazine smear campaign that was spoken
about on . Furthermore, this article has racist connotations to it, as well
as, bigotry and prejudicial on a Christian man who wants the very best for
this country. I also view this editorial as a means to try and scare people
through lies, racism, bigotry, and prejudice. Mr. Sillett's rant is
utterly disgraceful and totally false. I encourage every citizen to condemn
this article to the fullest extent. I encourage all of you readers to visit
www.snopes.com and on the search line type in Barack Obama and call the
publisher of the Ottawa Herald and tell Mr. Sillett how false he is and how
there is no shred of evidence to confirm his claims. May God bless us by
having Barack Obama as our next President!
sgt287
01:27 AM
02/03/2008
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Sillett on Obama
I am so very thankful that as an American we have the right and freedom of
speech. I read the reply of young...to Mr. Sillett's commentary and
decided to post my own reply. I have yet to decide who I will vote for.
However, to say that Mr. Sillett should be ashamed of himself is a self
righteous statement. Mr. Sillett is allowed and has every right to speak
his mind. I am glad that Mr. Silletts opinion letter was printed. And
there are many reasons that Obama should not be even considered a
candidate. That is yet one more reason it is great to be an American. We
are all allowed to have our own opinion. But for the previous comment
posted, YOU have very strong beliefs and that is fine, however, you seem to
be extremely narrow minded, and perhaps you should reconsider some of your
comments. As for other candidates, they all have something that in my
opinion make them shady candidates. But who am I to judge? If you are a
true Christian, you do not judge. So then, you take a step back, evaluate
which would be best suited to run our country. It is time for those who
decide to post a comment or make such strong accusations to "grow
up" and be it as it may, post your comments, but do it in a mature,
responsible way. Leave your attitude and judgement out of it. Because if
you are truly a good Christian, you would not throw out the evil and name
calling, judging, negative that was posted. I wish all the candidates
well. I'm not a big political follower, however, I am doing my part
to educate myself so that when I do make my mark on the ballot, I will be
at peace that I made the best decision in my mind. I also believe that
politics are better left in the comfort of your own home. It's the
same as religion. Some things are better left unsaid. Discuss it among
those who have similar values and beliefs. Simply said.
youngitized
01:55 PM
02/03/2008
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Re: Sillett on Obama
Sir with all due respect, Mr. Sillett is trying to scare people and is
lying throughout his editorial. Sir it is sinful to lie about someone when
you know darn, good, and well that what is said is not true. In my mind my
statements on Mr. Sillett's article are right on because he is not
factually accurate. I would encourage you to visit the snopes website at
www.snopes.com that I provided in my rebuttal to Mr. Sillett. Sir, I
mention that Mr. Sillett made the choice to smear Senator Obama and it
seems to me that you want me to sit idly by and let the smear campaign
continue of which I will not do. As far as your comments on me being
judgmental: totally laughable. As far as calling me narrow minded, I think
when you read the Mr. Sillett article and take it as fact without
questioning it, I think that is narrow minded! Sir I would also like to
wish you a nice day and I sincerely hope that you have a good week.
duff_ks
09:09 PM
02/04/2008
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Sillett on Obama
I can only hope Mr. Sillett just snuck the article in after the paper was
put to bed, and when the editors weren't looking. Anybody who
proofread that should be fired.

I think there's a reason why pressmen aren't supposed to
know how to type.
SiriusA
01:18 AM
02/07/2008
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sad commentary on what people will believe
Mr. Sillett's many assertions about Barak Obama -- that he's a
muslim, that he won't pledge alliegence, etc., etc. -- are just
vicious disinformation. Is it really enough to just write that
"other" websites counter the lies? This is an embarassment in
journalism standards. And just what does Mr. Sillett mean by "Don t
betray your heritage"? What heritage exactly? This just sounds racist
and backwards. It's exactly because of this kind of backwards
commentary that we need a breath of fresh air in politics. The sad reality
is that an Obama presidency would probably do more to improve Mr.
Sillett's life than any of the other's candidates.
bartink
05:37 AM
02/07/2008
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Pathetic
With words urging us to be mindful of our heritage, this man spreads lies
that are easy to disprove with a few minutes on google. With lies, he
suggests that Obama is a wolf in sheeps clothing. With arrogance, he
suggests that voting for a mainstream candidate would be like spitting on
the graves of the victims of 9-11. What nonsense.

We believe that the system is broken. We believe that there is a better
way than dividing our country into red states and blue states. We believe
that Americans have more in common than not. We believe in a United States
of America. We are going to take this country back from the likes of this
infantile man and those who think like him.

Yes we can.
nomnomnom
05:38 AM
02/07/2008
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Freedom of the Press
The great thing about Freedom of the Press: mow the whole world knows that
Gary Sillett is a moron.


Thanks for representing this community and paper Gary. Thanks.

Now go back to your cave.
Matt
05:49 AM
02/07/2008
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Obama was against the war
All of the claims here are pattently false. I want to address on in
particular.

You suggest that electing Obama would dishonour American soldiers. On
the contrary, Obama takes the lives of American soldiers fighting in the
Iraq war very seriously. He does not agree with using the military to
fight "dumb" wars, he has stood up against going to war from the
very beginning, and has continued to do so. He is the only candidate to do
so.

Obama is also on the Veterans Affairs Senate Committee.

Obama Passed An Amendment, Which Became Law, Preventing The VA From
Conducting A Review Of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder Cases Aimed At
Reducing Benefits. In 2005, Obama was an original cosponsor of an
amendment that became law preventing the VA from conducting a review of
cases, without first providing Congress with a complete report regarding
the implementation of such review. In November 2005, the VA announced that
it was abandoning its planned review. "Obama had several generations
of veterans in mind, he suggested, when he joined fellow Democrats Richard
Durbin (Ill.), Patty Murray (Wash.) and Daniel Akaka (Hawai'i) Sept.
22 on a successful amendment to block the Department of Veterans Affairs
from reviewing case files of 72,000 veterans rated 100-percent disabled by
post-traumatic stress disorder…VA officials believe some PTSD claims have
been decided for veterans without proper documentation. They announced
their massive review only after the VA inspector general studied 2,100
randomly selected cases of PTSD disability awards and found that 25 percent
lacked documents to verify that a traumatic, service-connected incident
occurred…But the Senate's amendment would bar the VA from conducting
its case review until it justifies the program to Congress." [SA 1864
agreed to in Senate by Voice Vote, 9/22/05; Became Public Law No: 109-114;
Military Update, 10/3/05]
Matt
05:50 AM
02/07/2008
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Obama helps homeless veterans
Obama Passed Legislation, Which Became Law, Improving And Increasing
Services For Homeless Veterans.

In 2006, Congress passed a Veterans Affairs Committee bill which
included several provisions originating in Obama's SAVE Act (S. 1180)
and Homes for Heroes Act (S. 3475). "The legislation...includes a
number of proposals from legislation Senator Obama had previously
introduced (S.1180, the SAVE Act and S.3475 the Homes for Heroes Act) to
expand and improve services for homeless veterans. The bill permanently
authorizes and increases funding to $130 million per year for a competitive
grant program to provide homeless services to veterans. It greatly
increases a successful program to provide rental vouchers to homeless
veterans. The legislation extends programs to providing treatment for
veterans with mental illnesses and other special needs. And it permanently
extends VA's ability to transfer property it owns to homeless
shelters." [S. 3421/P.L. 109-461; S. 1180, 109th Congress; S. 3475,
109th Congress; Obama Press Release, 6/26/06]


Matt
05:51 AM
02/07/2008
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Obama Supports VA benefits
Obama Passed An Amendment, Which Became Law, Preventing The VA From
Conducting A Review Of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder Cases Aimed At
Reducing Benefits. In 2005, Obama was an original cosponsor of an
amendment that became law preventing the VA from conducting a review of
cases, without first providing Congress with a complete report regarding
the implementation of such review. In November 2005, the VA announced that
it was abandoning its planned review. "Obama had several generations
of veterans in mind, he suggested, when he joined fellow Democrats Richard
Durbin (Ill.), Patty Murray (Wash.) and Daniel Akaka (Hawai'i) Sept.
22 on a successful amendment to block the Department of Veterans Affairs
from reviewing case files of 72,000 veterans rated 100-percent disabled by
post-traumatic stress disorder…VA officials believe some PTSD claims have
been decided for veterans without proper documentation. They announced
their massive review only after the VA inspector general studied 2,100
randomly selected cases of PTSD disability awards and found that 25 percent
lacked documents to verify that a traumatic, service-connected incident
occurred…But the Senate's amendment would bar the VA from conducting
its case review until it justifies the program to Congress." [SA 1864
agreed to in Senate by Voice Vote, 9/22/05; Became Public Law No: 109-114;
Military Update, 10/3/05]
Matt
05:52 AM
02/07/2008
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More veteran support
Obama Passed Legislation Extending Tax Credits For Military Families By
Allowing Service Members Deployed In War Zones To Apply Non-Taxable Combat
Pay To The EITC. In 2006, Congress passed legislation based on a proposal
sponsored by Obama, Kerry, and Pryor that extended tax credits for military
families by allowing service members deployed to war zones to apply their
non-taxable combat pay toward the Earned Income Tax Credit. The amendment
was introduced during debate on the Senate’s 2006 tax reconciliation bill,
ruled out of order, but later included in the Gulf Opportunity Zone Act,
which passed both chambers and became law on December 22, 2005. [H.R. 4440,
Became P.L. 109-135, 12/22/05; SA 2616, 109th Congress]

Obama Passed An Amendment, Which Became Law, To Require The VA To
Conduct A Campaign To Inform Disabled Vets Of Disparities In Compensation
And Explaining Their Rights To Seek Review. In 2005, Obama was an original
cosponsor on an amendment requiring the VA to conduct a campaign to inform
veterans in Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Connecticut, Ohio and New Jersey
about their right to seek a review of their past claims. Specifically, the
legislation required the VA to send letters to all veterans currently
receiving disability who live in six states with a past history of
below-average disability compensation, informing them of the past
disparity, and explaining how to request a review of past claims and
ratings and how to submit new claims. The VA was also required to inform
all other veterans whose past claims may have been properly denied of this
disparity by other means such as broadcast of print advertising. States
whose average annual disability compensation payment was less than $7,300
qualified as below average. In 2003, Illinois veterans received an average
of $6,802. The amendment became law on November 30, 2005. [S. Amdt. 1865,
Passed by Voice Vote, 9/22/05, to H.R.2528, Signed by the President and
Became Public Law No: 109-114 on 11/30/05]
Matt
05:54 AM
02/07/2008
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For more information on what Obama has done for us
href="http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/01/14/obamas_str
ong_record_of_accomp.php"> Obama's legislation
Matt
05:56 AM
02/07/2008
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Re: For more information on what Obama has done for us
Seems links don't work. Go to:

http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/01/14/obamas_strong_re
cord_of_accomp.php
JoeDog
06:42 AM
02/07/2008
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Just checking in on the heartland
Neither this "editorial" nor the comments below have changed my
opinion of Kansas one bit...
Amanda_Hugginkiss
08:49 AM
02/07/2008
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"Don't betray your heritage for Obama's change"
Gary Sillett's drivel has to be one of the most disingenuous and
hateful things I have ever read in my life.

"Weapons-grade" stupid doesn't even begin to describe
this diatribe. There is so much inaccurate information, in fact, I
don't have the time or inclination to refute this "article"
point for point.

As stated earlier by other replies, just go to snopes.com and get the
truth for yourself.

I certainly hope most residents of Kansas don't share this
moran's mindset and fall for these untruths and scare tactics.
Jhawk20
09:07 AM
02/07/2008
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Hate speach is not free
The Ottawas Herald is under no obligation to print demonstrably false
statements. This editorial is full of demonstrably false statements. Not
unpopular opinions but things that can be and have been proven false.

The swift boat tactics of the last election were disgraceful and a
black mark on our democracy. Not so much because there are crazy, hateful
people like the author of this piece but because of the irresponsibility of
our media to do their job. This isn't fair and balanced. Lies are
not fair nor balanced, presenting them as an "opinion" or the
other side is intellectually and morally dishonest. The Ottawa Herald
should be embarrassed more than the author of this hate piece.
jpcarr
09:07 AM
02/07/2008
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Wow!
Mr. Sillett's ignorance and your paper's lack of editorial
oversight are astounding.
PSP
09:56 AM
02/07/2008
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McCain doesn't wear a flag pin, either...
... so I guess he's a "Muslim fundamentalist" as well?
wakkawakka
10:49 AM
02/07/2008
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I'm disappointed that your vote counts as much as mine
Mr. Sillett, you are an insult to informed Americans across this great
nation. While people tirelessly research candidates trying to find
something to believe in, you propagate a two-bit chain letter full of lies
and distortions.

The real disappointment isn't with your article, it's with
the readers that will read this op-ed and think you are doing your job as a
journalist. In your article, you say that Obama won't recite the
pledge, but here's a link to him leading the pledge on the senate
floor. click
here


You should be ashamed of yourself for writing this ariticle, you have
gained national attention as a backwoods political hack. In the future,
research what you read before printing it in ANY paper. My fear is you knew
these were lies and distoritions and printed them anyway. How is that
American, and how does that reflect on our heritage?


PSP
11:59 AM
02/07/2008
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Re: I'm disappointed that your vote counts as much as mine
Oooh, I just got a great idea: since this newspaper apparently believes
that anything called "opinion" doesn't require any tedious
"fact checking", then I've got all kinds of marvelous and
fantastical opinions I'd LOVE to print in your paper.

So, um, can I write an editorial, too?
TominChicago
12:34 PM
02/07/2008
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Gary Sillett is a moron
Well, I guess we now know the answer to that proverbial question.
Apparently, Gary Sillett is what is wrong with Kansas.
wakkawakka
12:45 PM
02/07/2008
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Re: Re: I'm disappointed that your vote counts as much as mine
PSP has a great idea.
I'm thinking of an "opinion" article right now. I want
to write a piece for your paper that claims that Gary Sillett worships
satan, is a closeted homosexual, and wants to exterminate all people of
color in the United States. Since I read it in an email someone I
don't know sent me, it must be entirely accurate.

lol. Gary Sillett = laughing stock.

Did he have to forward that email to 20 friends after reading it to
avoid 10 years of bad luck?


spicecakes
12:54 PM
02/07/2008
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Who lifted the rock
that Gary crawled out from under? I am astounded by Gary's lack of
research into Senator Obama's record, his life, his religion ... but
people usually make up their minds based on their belief systems and
experiences. Do we have Mr Sillett's parents to blame for his small
minded, racist, antisemitic, intolerant beliefs? I would take a wild guess
that 99% of Americans are originally from somewhere else - just because our
families may have been here for a hundred years or so means NO-THING!!! If
Gary is such a great Christian he ought to re-read his Bible and learn
about patience, tolerance of others, and loving his neighbors. I suggest
Canada or Mexico for Gary's move after Senator Obama becomes President
Obama.
cdog
02:15 PM
02/07/2008
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Don’t betray your heritage for Obama’s ‘change’
It's nice that the Ottowa Herald employees people with mental
disabilities but they really shouldn't let someone with such severe
issues such as Gary Sillet write stories and them publish them.
rachel
12:07 AM
02/10/2008
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Re: Freedom of the Press
I agree. Moron. But, who allowed it to be printed?
Kat
02:58 PM
02/24/2008
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Re: Re: Sillett on Obama
an opinion is just that, an opinion. garys view of obama is based on facts.
everyone is so quick to say "go to snopes.com and see for
yourself" well i did, and did not see anything to get excited about.
they really did not disprove much. he had muslim parents, he went to muslim
schools and catholic schools among others. just because he joined a
christian church at the same time he was getting started with politics and
leadership does not erase his background. in fact it seems like a little
bit of good timing on his part. "better get looking like a christian
so i can get more into the politics i am looking for." of course thats
not a quote, so no need for anyone to go running off looking for a way to
disprove it. no matter what the forum, there will always be at least 2
sides to every story and several more opinions on each of those sides. It
is up to the individual to take from it what they will and either feel
moved or outraged or any other number of feelings. that is what this is all
about. being able to have opinions and state them. garys opinion is based
on facts. there are photos of obama not hand over heart, he himself in iowa
stated he will no longer be wearing the flag pin for his own reasons. the
facts on snopes.com that they only say to be false because they could not
get records back far enough to find supporting evidence. and of course no
idiot running for president would ever claim to have ever been muslim of
any kind. that would kind of kill his hopes. alot of what snopes said was
the same thing that original email said so i dont know why they bothered
with some of it. the facts of family background and schooling are stated as
true. and others want to point out that he has been with the christian
church for 20 years. what about the 20 some years before that?either way
garys letter was an opinion based on information anyone can find on the
internet and has not be proven as false. his viewpoint stemming from that
is therefore valid. of course after 911 who in the world would want a
muslim as the leader of our nation? that is what the letter was about and
there are facts behind it. the way people want to see those facts is up to
them. different sources are available for everything as they have always
been. right on back to "the world is flat" fact that was held to
be true for so long. it is wonderful to be somewhere that people can be
open about thoughts and opinions, but how much longer will that be able to
be true? if every opinion gets so much attention and the stater is called
names and ridiculed how many others are going to have the balls to state
their own opinions? no matter what you think of gary sillett, he got your
attention and made you change your plans for a while to write about him. i
would feel safe saying that was his plan.
Kat
03:14 PM
02/24/2008
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Re: Re: Re: I'm disappointed that your vote counts as much as mine
boy wakkawakka, you seem so wise and adult in the way you word your little
notes. and your name is so intelectual as well. once again i say, go to
snopes and see the facts that are not disproved and then form an opinion.
use your tiny brain for something other than trying your best to be
insulting. gary found facts supporting his view and put forth his opinion
of them. grow up and figure out that you do not know all there is to know.
everyone has something to learn, you seem to be lacking in tolerance.
Kat
03:21 PM
02/24/2008
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Re: Obama was against the war
what is considered a "dumb" war? which war would be a good one?
war sucks matt, but it is a part of life. what kind of country would be
worth living in that did not stand up for itself and do its best to protect
its shores and all of its citizens? i am proud to have had family members
sent overseas and have been one of the lucky ones to see them come back. we
would not have a nation to call our own if we did not defend it.
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